Question 1

What is the qualitative difference between the Kasina and the Procyon or the Proteus?

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I own both the Procyon and the Kasina. I ordered tithe Procyon about 3 years ago and used it about 5 times a week. The device itself is simple to use with 1980s era controls and a 4 character digital display. There is a start /stop button. A button to scroll through sessions and one to enter different input modes from out side sources. You can either buy CDs or download MP3s in a format called Audio Strobe and play those through  an Aux port. Of course there is a power button on the side and then 2thumb wheels to control LCD brightness and volume. The whole device is constructed about as nice as a good quality Sony Diskman just slightly chubbier than a deck of cards. Takes 3 double a batteries that last about 6 weeks with my usage. The glasses are basically like good drug store sunglasses with the LCDs applied to the inside. The head phones are on ear sound really good but the foam cover started to pop off fixed with some super glue. If you haven't used a Mind Machine before the visuals will be hard to describe but there is a difference between the 2 devices. For me the best way to describe to friends what I see with the Procyon is if you remember pressing firmly on your closed eyes as a kid you would see pinwheels and kaleidoscopic images, we'll that what you get with the Procyon but that just a portion of what it can display. Gentle baths of color, crystalline shimmer, mandalas more than you can ever imagine seeing "eyes closed". For me though sometimes the pulsed sound can be annoying. That where the Audio Strobe stuff helps you get music and visuals. The Procyon doesn't do good job to responding to regular music. There are ways to accomplish that and I have enjoyed making some sessions to match my music. The Mind Place forums go through that quite we'll. Over all the Procyon has been my good dependable transport to a great meditative state for years. For me the jury is still out on entrainment. I think I fall more into the "entertainment "catagory. Now the Kasina is a way more modern device and approaches an early ipod for device quality glasses are about the same but you get some good flat cable ear buds. This device uses a small 4square color LCD to control its operation.it comes with some pulse sessions,audio strobe and spectra strobe sessions. Those are the orchestrated musical sessions. One great thing about the Kadina is that there are dozens of sessions on sound cloud that are free and work great. You just load them to a SD card on the device. The Procyon was designed to have both eyes in sync. The Kadina can operate each eyes separately . The main reason I bought the Kasina when I already had the Procyon was it is much more music oriented. Last but not least it has a built in light or color organ. Regular mp3s make you see visuals. The more dramatic the music the better the show.A note about creating sessions your self. The Procyon comes with an editor simple but very comprehensive. The Kadina also comes with a free editor but it has lost some variables. To make more elaborate sessions you have to purchase a pricey application called mind work station. I guess if you want to try entrainment the Procyon worth ever penny. If you want more music and orchestrated sessions the Kasina is the way to go. You can't go wrong by starting with the Procyon. The go for brand new price on eBay. Then you can upgrade to the Kasina. Or just keep both and use the one you are in the mood for.ThanksKyle

Question 2

Does it come with headphones?

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yes, the package contains in ear headphones. the quality is good but not high- end.

Question 3

When purchasing audio from mindplace, does it tell you which ones reaches the different stages (beta, alpha, theta, delta, rem)?

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No

Question 4

Does any one know the brand and model of the ear buds, many don't work for me?

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They are just generic earbuds. Nothing special. The company intentionally put in cheap ones because they are aware of people having their own preferences as far as earbuds go. I threw out the ones that came with it and use ones I like instead.

Product Dimensions	15.24 x 13.97 x 10.16 cm; 23 g
Target Gender	Unisex

Brain Machine KASINA with Bonus Expansion Session.

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