East Coast Bedding European Pure Down Pillow, 800 Fill Power, 400 Thread Coun...

For several years I've been dealing with significant neck pain when I sleep. I generally toss and turn throughout the night, moving my pillows around into various positions trying to find the comfortable place. A couple years ago I decided I'd had enough and set out to find a pillow that would end my neck pain and also allow me to sleep through the night. It's literally been many years since I've been able to sleep comfortably throughout an entire night. I'm a side sleeper and probably have been turning over & readjusting my pillow every 20 to 30 minutes every single night for years. So as I was saying, a couple years ago I set out to find a great pillow. I tried all so called "Hotel pillows" and some were ok, but none really cushioned my head and were completely soft at the same time. I tried many waffle style pillows that claimed they were perfect for those with neck pain, still had neck pain and tossing & turning. After trying so many memory foam & other specialty pillows, I think I tried about 9 different pillows, I finally decided to bite the bullet and purchase the combo memory foam surrounded by goose down pillow made by a company that sounds like schmempurpedic. This pillow was $150 (I got a two for one deal over the Memorial day weekend which was the only way I justified spending this much on a pillow) and it was more comfortable than the others I had tried, but still not really a great pillow and I was still tossing & turning all night and waking up with a stiff neck, never finding a pillow G spot. The reason I hadn't tried an all Goose Down pillow during my search was because my mom had several really nice all down pillows, and I had tried them and my head would almost immediately sink through the down to the mattress surface level. Even after fluffing them up it would only be a matter of minutes before I would find my head flat against the mattress. With her pillows you would have to fold the pillow in half to keep from sinking down too much. I can remember seeing her sleeping with those pillows folded under her head. I found that when I folded the pillow it just wasn't nearly as comfortable as it should have been for a down pillow, so I didn't even include them in my search. The other reason I didn't include them was of course the price. Good Goose Down pillows generally cost around $200 and more and that was just not in my budget. So now I've lived with the neck pain night after night for too many years and I thought I was fed up before, but now I just had to do something no matter how expensive. I started doing research on Down pillows and came to find that there are many different types. Duck Down, Goose Down, 550 fill power 650, 750, 800, 900. Fill power for those of you who don't already know is a measure of how much down is stuffed into each cubic inch. A 550 pillow will cost a good bit less because it simply has considerably less Down fill than say an 800. Also Goose down from what I read is more desirable than Duck Down. Apparently it's longer lasting and a little warmer & softer than Duck Down. Now after much research and reading countless reviews I came to the realization that my mom's pillows must have been in the 550 range. So as I said in the beginning, I decided to bite the bullet and I purchased the 800 fill power Goose Down pillow from East Coast Bedding for $159, $173 with tax. OMG!!! It's only been a week, but I've been experiencing neck pain free nights, and I'm sleeping throughout the night only turning over a couple times during the night. I'm waking up after only 6 hours feeling refreshed & ready to start my day with a smile on my face, rather than dragging myself out of bed after ten hours of trying to sleep with my neck feeling horrible and a bit of a headache. If I'd had any idea how much of a difference this pillow would make I'd have plunked down the $170 a decade ago no matter what I might have had to sacrifice in order to afford it. It also is both supportive and incredibly soft while molding to your head, and my head does not sink down into this pillow like the cheaper 550 fill pillows, it just cradles my head so perfectly when sleeping on my back or side. My only advice is, don't cheap out & get the lower fill power for $50 less. If you experience neck pain of just toss & turn due to an inability to find a comfortable place on your pillow, just get the 800, it's totally worth the price! This pillow is the, "Pillow G spot!!!" Thank you East Coast Bedding!!

This is a wonderfully soft but firm 100% down pillow. (Yes, it is 100% down fill - the tag lists 90% down because the other 10% is the fabric for the pillow!) It is exactly as advertised. So why has it gotten some bad reviews? As a long-time, down pillow user, I have learned from my own mistakes what to look for and what to expect when buying down pillows. So after reading the negative reviews about this (and other down pillows), it seems to me that one big reason some people are unsatisfied with their purchase is that they had false or unrealistic expectations about down pillows. So here's some quick information about this pillow for my fellow down pillow enthusiasts and some additional info for you lucky newbies discovering the wonders of down for the first time. I hope it will helps in your decision to buy this (or any) down pillow. Quick info for Down Pillow Experts: This is a 100% white goose down pillow (no chunky feathers). It has a firm but soft 800 fill power and is perfect for side sleepers like myself. It does not come with an additional outer shell like some more expensive options but the pillow's cotton-sateen fabric is 400 thread count and does a great job (breathes well and very little down comes out). The edges are standard stitched, not piped or gusseted. I detected no odor at all from the pillow when it arrived. I have been unable to find any warranty information about this pillow through Amazon or elsewhere online and there is also no information as to whether or not it has been hypoallergenically treated (I am not allergic to water fowl, it is not an issue for me). But the price is one of the lowest I have found for the fill power and the quality is in par with far more expensive down pillows I have purchased in the past. I am very happy with the pillow and I plan to purchase at least two more now that I see that Amazon sells them in a 2-pack for a great savings! Additional Info for Newbies: If you've never slept on a down pillow before, then you are in for a treat! Down pillows are absolutely the softest pillows out there. They breath better than other materials so your head doesn't get too hot and the soft down contours to your head so you get excellent support that feels like you are sleeping on a cloud. But if you are used to sleeping on pillow filled with some other material (latex, polyester, gel, foam, feather), you may have become accustomed to other types of pillows and down may not be what you expect. Most other pillow fills are more solid and more rigid than down. As down is composed of lots of tiny soft duck or goose feathers, the filling can be adjusted (pushed around) within the case to shape the pillow. Newer down pillows will have more loft and will seem to almost fluff themselves. But as time goes by, the down will get soiled and break down slightly causing it to lose some of its firmness. You can extend the life of your down pillow by fluffing it after use and cleaning it at least once a year (down pillows should be professionally dry cleaned unless the label says otherwise). If you take proper care of your down pillow, it can last you for decades! Things to look for when buying a down pillow: The first thing you should look at is what percent of the filling is down. This particular pillow is a 100% down but some are a mixed down/feather fill. Pillows with feather fill are less expensive but not as soft and can sometimes feel "chunky." Secondly, you should look at the fill power of the pillow. This is an 800-fill power which is considered medium-firm and is great for side sleepers. If you are a back sleeper, you might consider a 700 fill-power for a slightly softer pillow. Stomach sleepers might want an even lower fill power. Thirdly, make sure you are not allergic to down! While many pillows are specially treated to be hypoallergenic, this pillow does not list this in its description. So if you are not sure, you may want to look at a different pillow or a down-alternative pillow. Down alternatives are pretty nice and much less expensive than down, but they are not the same and you can definitely tell the difference. Finally, consider price. Higher fill power increases the price (more down = more money) but other refinements like additional pillow covers, gusseted sides, brand names, and longer manufacturer's warranties can also increase the price. Yes, we all want the security of a long manufacturer's warranty, but be honest, outside of expensive electronics, when was the last time you sent something back to a manufacturer under warranty? And are you really going to send back a pillow in 5 years if you are no longer happy with it!? Again, I have purchased many down pillows over the last few decades and this pillow is a very good quality -- better than some I have paid more for in the past. I hope this information helps. Sleep well!

June 18, 2018 It's been 6 to 7 months since I've slept on these pillows. I stand by my positive review, and am still very happy with these pillows. However, over time, tiny filaments (thinner than hair diameter and 1/8 to 1/4 long) of down have escaped somehow. I only notice them when I wear dark color pajamas (lint roller to the rescue). I bought 600-thread-count pillow protectors, and they have helped considerably. Here's the link to those pillow protectors at $10 each: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CNHZ97S/ref=cm_cr_ryp_prd_ttl_sol_0 ORIGINAL REVIEW These pillows turn out to be exactly what I expected based on the online description and customer reviews, and now that I've own them for 2 weeks, I'm very happy with them. If you also want to be happy with this purchase, please be aware of the following: DESCRIPTION The Amazon product title and description are not exactly correct. The title says, in part, "100% White Goose Down" but the pillow label in person shows "90% EUROPEAN DOWN CLUSTER (800 Fill)." See attached photo. These pillows feel as soft as I expected, based on previous pure down pillows I've owned in the past. And when you fluff them, they return to a pleasingly high, full shape. FIRM OR SOFT? According to the Amazon description, the weight of the queen size pillow (which I bought) is 25 oz. Supposedly, the higher the number of ounces, the firmer the pillow. For a 20x30-inch pillow, some companies consider 25 ounces of down to be firm, 21 ounces to be medium, and 17 ounces to be soft. Firmness and softness are somewhat subjective, so it's difficult to go by someone else's opinion. To me, these pillows are medium to medium-firm. They are not so soft that they flatten down completely. And they are not so firm that your head floats on the pillow. I think these are best for back sleepers who like the luxurious feeling of sinking their heads into a cloud of softness. Stomach sleepers would probably feel suffocated because the middle would be almost flat and the sides remain fluffy and high. Some side sleepers may find the pillow not supportive enough. QUALITY & VALUE I'm very happy with the quality of these pillows. I've owned down pillows in the last 16 years at different price points, and I think these pillows are of great value. These pillow are expensive compared to to other types of pillows (foam, gel, down-alternative, etc.), but I haven't found a cheaper 90% goose-down, 800-fill, 20x30-inch pillow. I believe that, with proper care and cleaning, these down pillows would last for many years and still feel luxurious. I used down-alternative pillows before, but had to replace them every year because they became lumpy after some months. I've fluffed the pillows every morning for 2 weeks, and have not detected any of the fill making its way out from the fabric or seams. (By the way, one of the wonderful things about down pillows is that they can be fluffed back to fullness after every use.) These pillows arrived un-flattened (not shrink wrapped) in a huge box. There was no smell at all. CONCLUSION I highly recommend these pillows for people who have slept on and love down pillows, especially the ones with a medium-level of firmness.

I am docking one star for price. The pillows have been excellent. I bought two of these pillows in 2019. My wife did not like hers, so I had two. They cost $269.99 in 2019. I am buying two more, but the price is $474.12. I bought King size, medium softness last time and I am sticking with this option. I see reviews where people complain about the pillows being either too soft or not firm enough, but no mention of which option they bought. People... when you write a review please be specific. These options matter. These pillows did not shed feathers like down pillows I've had in the past. I remember a mild funky smell when I first unpackaged them but that was gone in a couple of days. The construction is superb as they lasted a long time, and the comfort is sublime. I will return to this review when I receive the new ones. I hope East Coast Bedding has retained their manufacturing standards especially since the price is so much higher.

Update 2022 - after loving the standard size pillows for a few years, I just ordered king size pillows and they are even more awesome! I put the king size pillow in a queen size envelope pillow cover and it keeps the pillow puffed up. I do not think I will ever buy anything but these pillows. I hope the company stays in business! These are the BEST EVER! I had these on my wish list for over a year, and the price never went down. I finally decided to purchase and I am so glad I did. I am a side sleeper, and normally use two down pillows. After using multiple down, down alternative, and down and feather pillows, this pillow is absolutely the best product I have ever used. I think the 800 fill power is the difference, making the pillow firm enough to elevate my head and soft enough to provide a constant sense of floating on a cloud. The construction is simple, sturdy, and elegant. I have not seen any down feathers coming out, and the edges are tight. I love how the two pillows came in a "non-compressed" bag, although I doubt it would have mattered to the quality or fluff. After weeks of use, the pillow retains full volume every morning with a few pats. I normally unpack both pillows, one for me and one for my wife, but I am keeping one of these in the bag for future use, since I care a lot more about pillow quality than my wife does. If the price causes you to pause, I encourage you to pay the price for this product. It is worth every penny.

Ever since I bought this pillow I've been getting a TON of migraine headaches. I thought they were due to stress, but after a lot of record keeping the data wasn't matching up. What finally dawned on me is that I toss 'n' turn ALL night because this pillow feels fluffy for about 5 minutes, then it sinks to pancake level & throws my head/neck out of alignment. I finally realized I was living with extreme neck & upper back tightness, knots, and pain. Once I found a pillow that remained supportive & I started getting my body loose again the migraines started subsiding. I love the pillow if only it had actually support. I called them, they want $30 for more feathers. This pillow was already pretty expensive, now add $30 and it's not a good deal at all. I think when it's new the cotton case has tighter weave, but after a couple weeks the weave loosens up from having air forced through it when you place your head on it, so it doesn't resist collapsing as well after use. There just isn't enough feathers. I'm one who feels pretty bad killing birds for their feathers and food, but I feel way worse with a migraine that delivers extreme pain & renders me too unsafe to drive to the clinic.

I always use quality down pillows so I am used to how they should feel when they're new and when they're broken in. FYI - I ordered the King Size version. These are under filled and under weight. They are significantly lighter and softer than a queen size down pillow that I recently purchased elsewhere from a company that specializes in down pillows for hotels. These were a little cheaper and the reviews were good so I thought I would give it a try. Unfortunately, the quality isn't even close to what I'm used to. My head sinks right down to the mattress unless I fold it or push one end in about half way to compress the down. These were cheaper, but not that much cheaper. I missed my return window, which is entirely my fault, so I cannot comment on customer service. That's why I gave it 3 stars instead of two.

Top of the line: very comfortable and very good quality. I did a double take on the 90% (800 fill) down cluster on the tag, the internet explains what's going on with a little bit of research. It is pretty much as good as it gets: you're not going to end up feeling a hard feather or having it work it's way out and prick you. It's a labeling requirement that's relatively new for New Zealand (so global companies are defaulting to that more and more). Down pillows of yesterday year or tags that don't contain that information just arnt giving you all the details. These give about 2" of lift under your head when under standard sleeping compression: it has the most loft of any down pillow I've used. If I need more loft, doubling them up adds more than just another two inches since the first one receives a point load and the second has a more spread-out even load. A bit too high for me for sleeping but pretty great for reading.

Nice and comfortable. I did expect something better.