Phoenix Thermogenic Fat Burners & Weight Loss Pills - 30 Servings, 90 Capsules (Caffeine Free)

I have had Phoenix for a long time. It has been used off an on as need for many months. So lets look at the first time shall we? My 'specs' : - Year 2015 - Male - 230lb - Height 5'11 - Diet 2000-2100 calories daily - I was taking the following supplements while using Phoenix: LEGION Triumph - Daily Multivitamin for Women and Men, Best Workout Multivitamin, All-In-One Bodybuilding Multivitamin with Minerals, Energy Multivitamin That Really Works - 30 Servings, 240 Capsules LEGION Whey+ - Best Whey Protein Powder for Weight Loss, All Natural Whey Protein Isolate, Lactose Free Whey Protein, Best Bodybuilding Whey Protein Powder Isolate - Dutch Chocolate, 30 Svgs, 1.91 lb Nordic Naturals - Ultimate Omega, Support for a Healthy Heart, 180 Soft Gels I go into great detail about this because I believe ALL vitamin supplements are -extremely- dependent on the person and their diet and exercise. The results I will write are for me and my situation. The Review Phoenix Consumption Trial 1: Product was taken with Breakfast and Lunch. I took this product weighing 230lb during 3x a week resistance training at the gym. During my workouts I forgot my original goal was weight loss and was consuming WAY more food than my fat butt needed. I kept doing it though because the gains in my lift were huge and I sorta just forgot about my weight. Anyway, I started taking Phoenix due to the quality I have come to expect from LEGION and with the intention of losing some pounds. Plus I kinda just wanted to test his product. Without changing my diet and eating 2000-2100 calories daily I started losing weight at about .25lbs the first week and it eventually snowballed into about about .5lbs a week from there out. After about 3 weeks I realized the product was clearly working and lowered my calories down to about 1700-1800 and began losing 2lb a week. This was to be expected though as I discovered that at about 2000-2100 calories my weight just idled, so I had plenty of fat to burn at 1700-1800 calories. I road that fat loss train all the way down to 190lbs with a consistent 2lb a week loss. At the end of this I was at about 1600 calories daily as I had to stop going to the gym due to not respecting the weights (oops). This ends Trial 1: Phoenix Consumption Trial 2: Product was taken with Breakfast and Lunch. Well Christmas came and Birthdays arrived and I was still out of the gym due to injury. I had boosted my weight back up to 210lbs and configured my diet to 1600 calories and started with just eating better. At the time I was not taking Phoenix. Due to not going to the gym in such a long time my metabolism must have crapped out as I was not losing or gaining weight. Hey I have an idea......Phoenix :) . So I tested it again while doing 1600 calories daily. Surely enough something kicked in and I began to see weight loss again. Well played Mike. After a few weeks I began regular exercise to boost things up again and am now at 198lbs. The Result: Short story. It works if you know what your doing. This is a natural supplement, not a solve your cake eating problems pill. I cant see how this wont cause weight loss if you already track calories and just need a small edge. If you just blindly eat clean or healthy or poorly or whatever you want, there is no possible way you can prove this is doing anything. You need to either accept that it is, or do math like I did. Or just accept my math, whatever floats your boat. Side Effects: The product claims it does 3 things. Lets review how it affected me: 1) Weight loss. a) Obviously, just read the saga I wrote above. 2) More Energy a) Honestly....I cant speak for this. I was already taking great supplements and eating very very good. I felt like I could crush the world, so if I got even MORE energy from Phoenix, I have no way to actually track that. I surely didn't feel less energetic. 3)Fewer Cravings a) Yes. This is true and I noticed this without realizing it at first. I bought this with weight loss in mind and never considered the 'Fewer Cravings' part because I never cared about that. During the trials of Phoenix there were many times I would have to eat a small breakfast and a few hours afterwards I was confused as to why I just didn't really feel that hungry. I was always hungry after a s***ty breakfast like a granola bar. Well, every time it was during Phoenix. Please be aware that the "Fewer Cravings" in Phoenix is the 5-HTP and the effectiveness is only there WHEN TAKEN WITH FOOD. As well as the product increasing the thermic effect of food (Synephrine). ONLY take Phoenix with your meals and try to use the biggest meals of the day or you will lose effectiveness guaranteed. The science is there, but its up to you to follow it accurately. Just take it as the bottle says. All in all this is a very well made product that gives you a slight edge in weight loss. Its by no means needed in the slightest way as you can easily combat weight loss by proper dieting. However if you want to give yourself every edge then Phoenix can and will help you. If anyone has any questions let me know and ill be happy to answer. I hope this helps some of you out there. The insane TL:DR: The product works if the following applies to you: 1) You understand its giving a slight edge on your already proper diet / Exercise. (This isn't a free pass to Burger King) 2) You understand how the product works so you dont take the supplement improperly. ( Taking them with your biggest meals and not taking all 4 pills before bed because you 'forgot'. Your fault) 3) You recognize this supplement was designed with your health in mind first and weight loss second. ( A healthy way to lose weight without destroying your body in the process )

I've been using Legion products for well over a year now, having started with Phoenix as part of a cut. Fat burners I've used in the past include OxyElite Pro (before the ban), HydroxyCut, and BSN's thermogenic (I do not recall the name). There is no question that my best results have come while using Phoenix. I will hedge that statement by also mentioning that my diet has been at its best while using Phoenix and I'm more experienced with weight training than I was when I used the other products I mentioned. Even so, when I was at 20% plus body fat, adhering to a clean, calculated diet, and sticking to an (relatively) intense 5-day training regimen while using OxyElite Pro (which I consider to be the second most effective fat burner I've used), the rate of fat loss I experienced then ("easy" fat I call it - those of you who have made a big cut know how much quicker the trip from 20% to 15% can be than 15% to 10%) was not nearly as impressive as when I used Phoenix (15.3% down to 9.5%). Pros of Phoenix 1. No jitters - I have high caffeine tolerance and I suspect some amount of jitters I experienced using the other products were related to non-caffeine ingredients. Can't prove it, but that's my intuition - I know my body pretty well. I love that I can still drink coffee in the morning. Lastly, and most importantly, Phoenix not having caffeine makes me feel a little better about using Legion Pulse, the pre-workout formula (which I recommend as well) which includes caffeine. 2. Easy to swallow pills - Aside from vitamin D, these are the smallest pills in my supplement stack, which includes a multi-vitamin (Orange Triad), fish oil, and green tea extract upon waking. 3. Effective when used correctly - if you take the correct dosage, maintain a caloric deficit (this is essential - you absolutely cannot lose weight unless you use more energy than you take in), and engage in a vigorous strength training/cardio regimen, you will lose weight. Period. What surprised me most was that, on my trip from 15.3% to 9.5%, I didn't plateau at 10-11%, which has happened in the past (to me and others I know) without significant diet changes (e.g. low-carb, intermittent fasting/fasted training). Cons 1. As with any product, it may not be right for you - I know many who desire caffeine in their fat burner and I can certainly vouch for its effects. For non-coffee drinkers and non-pre-workout users, this may rule Phoenix out for you. The product's effectiveness, Legion's outstanding customer service, and the transparency about the ingredients and simple (but effective) explanations backed by science make this a five-star product, in my opinion.