Hayward W3PVS20JST Poolvergnuegen Suction Pool Cleaner for In-Ground Pools up...

Forget about the KREEPY! I was so frustrated trying to get that thing to run. You have to remember that your suction is going to have to hold the creepy up and drive it across the pool floor and I have just been so frustrated over the past few years messing with that thing every year I finally boxed it up and gave it away. Get this vacuum. It is awesome. It doesn’t really go all the way up the wall so you’ll still have to brush your walls, but this thing has been going all over my swimming pool. I attached a little skimmer basket that you can attach in the hose and it has just cleaned my pool like crazy. It cost about the same as the KREEPY but it actually works. I am so happy with this purchase. When I drug that other vacuum out at the beginning of this season and was trying to mess with it again, I just couldn’t take it anymore. I thought, I need a vacuum that is not relying on the suction to hold it up and drive it at the same time this vacuum is wonderful. You will not regret it.

This is my second Poolvergnuegen. The first one lasted 10 years with zero problems until it started just going in a tight half circle, stopping, and then doing another tight half circle. After some research I decided to replace the tires (the blue treads) but that didn't fix it. I saw myself starting to go down an expensive rabbit hole of replacing one part after another until I had more money in it that a new one would cost me. Since I was replacing the exact same cleaner I didn't have to mess around at all with the suction valves but I do remember it being fairly simply to adjust the Jandy valve to share the suction between the skimmer and the dedicated cleaner line. Seriously, I didn't touch this thing for 10 years. It ran for 8 hours a day for 10 years! Oh, and it does a very good job. It took almost a week for this one to show up so my pool bottom was getting a bit dirty. After one night it was clean. It doesn't go up my walls though. I have PebbleTek which is kind of slick so maybe that's it. The old one never did the walls either. So, once a week I just brush them which isn't a big deal because, unless there's been algae, they're very clean. Yes, this one is more expensive than some of the other popular name-brand cleaners. But, you get what you pay for and I think this one is well worth the extra money.

This is fast and has never gotten stuck, because every 15 or so seconds, it randomly spins and goes in a different direction. This checks all the "must have" boxes that everyone complains about on other cleaners. And it checks all my boxes, so no brainer. It's never gotten clogged, and given sufficient suction can climb walls. This is my second one. First lasted 4+ years, with 2 minor repairs: the rubber tires eventually wear down (about 2 years), and it has gears inside that also eventually wear down (2-3 years). Pretty easy to replace gears and away it goes. Very very happy with it especially compared to all the others I've tried, including a couple kreepy crawler types. The problem with them is I have to turn off all other pool filter lines (turn off skimmer) so they get all the suction. Also, most crawlers make noise (the Vingli was inexpensive, $80, and worked pretty good for 2 weeks then required I give it all the suction by turning off skimmer and the diaphragm it uses needs to be replaced every 200 hrs (every 25 days assuming 8 hrs per day filtering. So it was not a fit for someone who will be gone months at a time. Plus no skimmer is a deal breaker for me. But not with this cleaner! I can run out, the skimmer and a little in the infinity edge basin recycle water. It won't climb the walls with everything else on, but it still scurries all over the whole pool bottom with ease. Just put it in and forget about it. I only bought a new one after 4 years cuz I broke off an Axel when I dropped it while taking it out of pool. BUT bonus. I was able to use J.D. Weld epoxy to glue the axel back on, and the old one is back in the game and working fine, so it will be backup. Did not expect the epoxy to hold, the axel could only have glue on very end cuz it's molded to side of unit, and any excess glue would prevent the wheel from fitting. So 3 relatively minor repairs in 4 years, and still going strong. What's not to love? PROS: - can run other pump inlets and it keeps going. - does NOT get stuck (for more than 15 seconds when it spins and randomly picks new direction) - completely quiet Very happy with it, and not only would I buy it again, I just did buy another (out of concern epoxied wheel wouldn't hold, but so far it is, so I have a new one and a backup)

The Pool Cleaner is great. After suffering through creepy crawly and numerous Navigators which constantly break down and twist the suction hose this is a welcome friend. It cleans both the deep end and shallow end. It does not twist the hose. It does not get stuck in one spot. Follow the directions for the number of wheel RPM. You may need to screw the floats up or down depending on your pool. I read one person he didn't like it because it looked like a John Deere tractor with its large wheels. I don't give a fig what it looks like. It works. Dial it in and forget about it. Your pool will never be cleaner.

Since my purchase May 2022 and after 8 months of use I cannot recommend during the heavy leaf season. After a storm I'll scoop out the bulk of the debris, typically a 5 gallon buckets worth or this Hayward suction cleaner will stall when clogged. I've had to take apart twice to remove twigs and remove large leaves over a dozen times. This is a great pool sweep but I'm going back the Polaris 360 next fall. We also owned the Polaris 280, came with our home purchase September 2010 and lasted 4 years. It was getting old and showing wear. It needed a new hose, getting too stiff in the cold winter and needed an overhaul, about $300 in parts total. The only complaint with the 360 was it got stuck in the same spot continuously. Although the back up valve kicked in every 3 minutes I'd find the 360 back near the steps, as if trying to escape. Hayward Pros: Works well, got the walls cleaner than both Polaris models, doesn't get stuck, spent $0 on maintenance those 8 months, uses the pools circulation pump which equals less energy - no booster pump required. Cons: Runs the entire 8-10 hour filtration cycle, makes a horrific sound in the middle of the night when it climbs up the wall and reaches the surface.

Works perfectly. Replaced older version of this that was probably 10 years old and happy with this replacement.

Works great, easy ro use, would recommend.

I love it it’s a little pricey, but it does not get stuck so my pump’s not sitting in one spot all day long doing nothing. It’ll go forward backwards. I like it.