Fit true to size? Or drop in length and go up in width?

it's not true to size. Go to an AE store and use that Brannock device and try some on. Sizing is nothing like what you wear with sneakers. They run 1-1.5 size larger and narrower than your sneakers. For ex., I wear a 9 men and 7.4 X-wide in Adidas/Nike and AE respectively.

Are these firsts or seconds quality?

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "firsts or seconds quality". I'm going to answer the question as if you are asking whether they are what you would find at the retail company store, or at an outlet. As stated earlier the craftsmanship is very apparent (my other dress shoes are Johnston and Murphy so I'm going off of that standard) and I took a very close look at the shoes inside and out before trying them on. The shoes were in perfect condition so I'd say they are of firsts-quality.

I don't understand the size chart, what is the difference between a size 8.5 b(n) and an 8.5 2e?

B or b(n) is two times narrower than A standard D size or Medium (normal). A 2E, is on the other end wider than D by the power of 2. These are on the true to a bit narrow for my likes. So order accordingly. Beautiful shoe/nice leather. You do get what you pay. Look at "To Boot New York" brand for a step above this but little narrower also good buy for your money.

I have very flat feet and will need to remove the insole and replace it with one that better accommodates my foot. Can the insole be removed?

No, the insole doesn’t come out. It appears to be glued in.

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👔 Step into success with every stride.

BUILT TO LAST - Premium welted leather construction ensures your investment stands the test of time.
PERSONALIZED COMFORT - Cork footbed adapts uniquely to your foot shape for all-day wearability.
PRIDE IN CRAFTSMANSHIP - Made in the USA with meticulous attention to detail, reflecting your professional standards.
CLASSIC CAP TOE ELEGANCE - Effortlessly sharp style that commands respect in any boardroom or event.
VERSATILE SOPHISTICATION - Perfectly pairs with both tailored suits and smart casual looks—your go-to for every occasion.

The Allen Edmonds Men's Park Avenue Oxford is a premium leather dress shoe featuring a timeless cap-toe design and durable welted construction. Its cork footbed molds to your foot for personalized comfort, making it ideal for formal and professional settings. Crafted in the USA, this shoe balances classic style with lasting quality, perfect for the discerning millennial manager.

Specifications

ASIN	B000H16HY0
ASIN	B079JKNM2S
Best Sellers Rank	1,032,505 in Fashion ( See Top 100 in Fashion ) 1,974 in Men's Lace-Ups
Brand	Allen Edmonds
Closure Type	Lace-Up
Colour	Black
Cushioning Level	moderate
Customer Reviews	4.1 4.1 out of 5 stars (172)
Customer reviews	4.1 4.1 out of 5 stars (172)
Date First Available	24 Nov. 2009
Department	Men's
Fit to Size Sentiment	positive
Formality Level	Formal
Global Trade Identification Number	00745195003749
Has Shoe Adjustability	Yes
Heel Type	Flat
Import Designation	Made in US
Insole Cushioning	Cork
Insole Material	Leather
Is discontinued by manufacturer	No
Item Weight	52 Ounces
Item model number	2179
Lace Closure	Eyelets
Lace Ends	Aglets or knotted ends
Manufacturer	Allen Edmonds
Manufacturer	Allen Edmonds
Manufacturer part number	5615
Model Name	Park Avenue
Model number	5615
Number of Items	1
Number of Packs	1
Occasion Lifestyle	dress, Dress
Occasion Type	Party
Outer Material Type	Leather
Package Dimensions	30.48 x 20.32 x 10.16 cm; 508.02 g
Pattern	solid
Season	Autumn-Winter
Shoe Height Map	ankle-high
Shoe Type	Oxford
Sole Material	Leather
Special Feature	Durable
Specific Uses For Product	Formal Events, Dressy Occasions
Sport Type	Golf
Strap Type	Lace-Up
Style Name	Park Avenue
Subject Character	Occupational professional
Toe Style	Cap Toe
UPC	745195003749
Unit Count	1 Count
Water Resistance Level	Not Water Resistant
lining-description	Leather
material-type	Leather

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